I've been eating Fuyu persimmons like apples this year. They are the best! The Hachiya made an appearance in the persimmon pumpkin pie I baked last week. Incredible! For painting purposes I believe the Hachiya has a sweeter elegance. I began trying to capture that today in acrylic. The frame it's in here has been waiting for a painting to wrap itself around. By the time I'm done maybe they will be a team.